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108
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 2:42 pm    Post subject: site design -- comments? Reply with quote

So yeah, check the front page again.

I added some . . . vertical strips of photos.

The idea was suggested (and then . . . implemented) by my friend Hide-0, based on the insertcredit.com top-bar design. Only now, says he, the photos (which he selected from my archives and then cut and balanced accordingly) are vertical, meaning they can "compete with the length of the prose," thus making them more effective than insertcredit.com top-bars, if selected and placed correctly

It is worth noting that all game reviews are to feature these prominently.

"It gives it kind of a Wong Kar-Wai vibe, only with rock and roll, or videogames."

What think you?

I, for the moment, think that the positioning could be better. Though I guess that's for later thinking. Still not bad, maybe.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been avoiding the front page... yet you mention Wong Kar Wai, so, half empty of patriotic curiosity, I might.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... I'm not a fan of having big, colorful pictures on both sides of the text. It's not the pictures themselves, really, I just have trouble focusing on the words.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moral Fibro wrote:
I've been avoiding the front page... ___ you mention Wong Kar Wai, so, half empty of patriotic curiosity, I might.


And you've been avoiding the front page . . . why?
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it suits the place. mongoose I only really go to the front page when I'm too lazy to type out the entire address for the forum, which probably takes longer since I have to wai for the page to load before dicking on the link to the forum.

Perhaps I should stop being lazy.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why Times New Roman, Tim? Why? Why?
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not?
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ichigatsu wrote:
Why Times New Roman, Tim? Why? Why?


Because the php isn't in place yet. Once the php is in place everything will become arial, it seems.

I mean, it might as well. Actually, I had it in arial for the longest time. Then I changed it. I'll probably change it back at some point. We'll see!
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep them on one side, and you're golden.

Times New Roman has serifs. That makes it easier to read. Except for you. Since you're clearly a mutant, you deserve to suffer.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serifs sometimes hurt my eyes. I think perhaps my eyes are bad in a way that is . . . different from how your eyes are bad, Aderack.

We can discuss that later, however.

The purpose of putting the vertical photos on both sides was, of course, to enlighten me to which side is the correct side. So says t3h k0j1m4.

I'm sure it'll be the left.

No, the right.

No, maybe the left.

Hell, I don't know. I'll figure it out.

In game/movie/book/album reviews, the left side will be the abstracty vertical strip; the right side will be a fact chart of sorts, credits if needs be, and smaller thumbnail images which, upon dicking, do nothing. The body text itself will be punctuated with various breaks, border insertions, and modest-sized photos.

I think I should do the Metal Gear Solid 3 review in this style, just as a test. And then throw it up tomorrow.

Eh?
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I changed my mind! For real -- the strippy photos will go on the right side. Except on features, where they will go on the left. Because external links will not be present on feature pages.

Yes, final answer.

Eh?
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like Times New Roman either, I have to associate it with Word documents. Sans-serif fonts look a lot nicer and cleaner.
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edwardappleby



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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kinda have to vouch for fixed width for the middle column. I like shorter lines. A typesetting rule is to only have 66 characters on each line. Books generally follow this rule. This is also why newspapers have such short lines.

Though, it is your site. Do what you want man. Break conventions.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

San-Serif or Verdana are best for me. Hate Times New Roman.

This is a great site design because I can comfortably browse it in a tiny window in the corner of my screen. Nice light colour as well. Very easy to browse without my boss spotting me.

Tim, you might want to check out a new photo blogging thing called Flickr. I was reading about it on Little Yellow Different. I think you can send photos from your phone to your bizzity-logg0r.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh, the text changed.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thumbs up, I wish the whole internet was in this font.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This font is arse. I went and did some work for an hour. When I come back this better be readable.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Throws toys out of pram*
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

108 wrote:
Moral Fibro wrote:
I've been avoiding the front page... ___ you mention Wong Kar Wai, so, half empty of patriotic curiosity, I might.


And you've been avoiding the front page . . . why?


Lack of moderator powers?

As for something constructive...

I quite like the front. Things that are red, I tend to like.

Haveing the site navigation on the right feels odd, and looks unbalanced.
Those long verticle photos are great, it seems a shame that they have to be pushed down the page.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 21st 2004 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oi, it's a pretty font and for designing it's great, however, I can't read a fucking thing and the screen res and myopia aren't helping me any either. I need money to fix one thing, and I'm too lazy to fix the other, so fix this forum into something ugly and mundane that we can all read, and then realise it's not the font that makes it all beautiful, it's the fucking content.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 22nd 2004 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, I love the BURNING RED background color... I like red, its a great color second only to yellow, which is not a suitable background color anyway.

I love the vertical images on the right, those are super sexy.

However, I vastly prefer serif fonts to sans serif fonts. I find them much easier to read in large blocks of text. Sans serif is okay for titles and small things, however I cannot deal with them for large blocks.

Times New Roman is a great font.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 22nd 2004 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does kind of give me a headache, yes. I always feel that sans-serif fonts are yelling at me. Or speaking... a bit too loudly. It's half as bad as all-caps.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 22nd 2004 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Works for me, man. I'm here for the writing and the forum madness. Pictures are just the 1 on the 08 for me.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 22nd 2004 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And we've gone back to Times New Roman.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 22nd 2004 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All changes to the front page in the last sixteen hours or so have . . . not been my fault. I'm not the one changing them. I'm sure the person who is changing them, aside from being very responsible, is also very responsible.

I'm not going to tell them to stop until . . . well. We'll figure that out in a moment.

So yes, next question: relative center column width, or fixed? I'd like to keep the right and left columns fixed at 150 pixels no matter what. Should the center be fixed at what it is, or be changed to a relative, say, 60%?
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 22nd 2004 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say it's either fixed or it's full-width. No in-betweens. The reason I say this is if you have a small screen, it'll get squeezed more than it needs to be squeezed. If you have a large screen, it... won't make too much of a difference. It'll stll be too wide. Might as well go all the way.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 22nd 2004 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said earlier, fixed width is the way to go. Small columns are just plain easier to read. I've learned all I know about typesetting through LaTeX. word.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 22nd 2004 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried typesetting without a condom on?
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 22nd 2004 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Times. When used, it makes the rest of the internet look plain. I guess.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 22nd 2004 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if you are going to use a serif font, maybe Georgia would be better? It looks a little sleeker and easier on the eyes than Times. I think most people think of writing papers when they see Times. Georgia looks a little more...professional, maybe? I dunno. Take a look.
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PostPosted: Thursday, December 23rd 2004 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The site's looking like a normal site swallowed a bomb and gave a detonator to a monkey... this is a good thing. I can't stand sites that try to look bad-ass while being slick?

Slick rock-and-roll ends up like Gary Glitter.

The only thing missing from the site is this:




Cheers,

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PostPosted: Thursday, December 23rd 2004 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pertinent question is this: When are we (as in just about everyone) going to get our baby-blue w/ white racing stripes `Large Prime Numbers Forum Staff` track suits?
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PostPosted: Friday, December 24th 2004 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The red is destroying my eyes.
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PostPosted: Friday, December 24th 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T Shirts, I want t shirts. yet not white ones. I fucking hate white t shirts.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 28th 2004 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would appreciate it if you were to give me a link on the sidebar there, somewhere.

Use this banner, kudasai:



I also like the side images on the right side. However, doesn't using long vertical images require more space than horitzontal pictures? It's something about the way images are encoded digitally...

Oh well, it's all crumbs in the end. Link me!
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 29th 2004 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this thought this morning or maybe last night. What if you link your latest entry from the front page and have a Tales of 108 forum or something where people can comment on your latest happenings. Kind of like the Art of Writing over at IC.
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PostPosted: Saturday, January 1st 2005 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, it appears as if the column on the right of the homepage, the one that links to the forums and a bunch of dead-shell pages, is gone.

damn, nevermind. it...revived itself. or maybe i just need to go back to bed.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, January 5th 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legal Step, your avatar disturbs me for various reasons.
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