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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 12th 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject: songs of travelers, finding my fingers Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 12th 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: Travelers Reply with quote

I really like it.

No lyrics, and the rhythm guitar should make me think of water. Make it track 3. I'd buy it.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 12th 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Travelers Reply with quote

thrilljockey wrote:
I really like it.

No lyrics, and the rhythm guitar should make me think of water. Make it track 3. I'd buy it.


Well, the vocals are to be very whispery and watery. It could definitely have potential as a filler track. I don't know about rhythm guitar -- maybe just a lot of loose snare tapping. Maybe even make use of a snare roll at a couple points.

I'm thinking instead of fuzz for the last two repetitions I could just layer it up as-is, make kind of a wall-of-guitar sound.

I'll definitely fire up a loopable recording of this in Garageband and play around with it once I get that accursed . . . thing I need. That USB thing . . . hell. I don't even know what to call it! Maybe that's why I don't have it yet!

Brendan has one, I know that much.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 12th 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Travelers Reply with quote

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thrilljockey wrote:
I really like it.

No lyrics, and the rhythm guitar should make me think of water. Make it track 3. I'd buy it.


Well, the vocals are to be very whispery and watery. It could definitely have potential as a filler track. I don't know about rhythm guitar -- maybe just a lot of loose snare tapping. Maybe even make use of a snare roll at a couple points.

I'm thinking instead of fuzz for the last two repetitions I could just layer it up as-is, make kind of a wall-of-guitar sound.

I'll definitely fire up a loopable recording of this in Garageband and play around with it once I get that accursed . . . thing I need. That USB thing . . . hell. I don't even know what to call it! Maybe that's why I don't have it yet!

Brendan has one, I know that much.


Well you should definitely go with your gut when it comes to music - besides, it's better than anything I've ever come up with anyways.

Yet I will say that the guitar reminded me a bit of "You Beautiful Bastard" by The Sea and Cake. It has a kind of mellow interestingness to it where if you listen to it before you go to bed you almost fall asleep yet can't because you want to keep listening to it.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 12th 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Travelers Reply with quote

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Brendan has one, I know that much.


Brendan has this one.

Also, you should be able to get some love out of it just by running a fat jack from your guitar to a thin jack right into your Macbook. I thought you had one. Anyway, there should be a little interference, yet it should work.

Sometimes you have to mute/unmute/enable recording/futz around with GB before it works.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 12th 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Travelers Reply with quote

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Also, you should be able to get some love out of it just by running a fat jack from your guitar to a thin jack right into your Macbook.


I still want the box thing ;_;
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 12th 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Travelers Reply with quote

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klikbeep wrote:
Also, you should be able to get some love out of it just by running a fat jack from your guitar to a thin jack right into your Macbook.


I still want the box thing ;_;


Or this, maybe.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 12th 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Travelers Reply with quote

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108 wrote:
klikbeep wrote:
Also, you should be able to get some love out of it just by running a fat jack from your guitar to a thin jack right into your Macbook.


I still want the box thing ;_;


Or this, maybe.


Comes with drum loops! 160MB of them!

My Macbook Pro's MULTIPLE JAGABYTES OF RAM could probably handle all 160MB of those drum loops at once!!

Man! That'd sound like a fire got let loose on a record player!

England would love it!
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 12th 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the correct term for this is 'nice'. What I imagine is the kind of like music that other people might put on in order to relax. If you asked me what I think it needs I would most likely reply with 'a solid block of distortion' and "Motörhead" yet that would be turning it to what my ideal view of rock and roll should be and not necessarily what yours would be. And then it wouldn't be what other people would consider relaxational music.

So I'll just leave it at nice.
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PostPosted: Tuesday, December 12th 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been listening to this on repeat for a couple hours now. Sounds like you don't need the encouragement, yet there definitely needs to be more. Good fuzz.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree it is very good, there should be more though.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gettin' good! It sounds a little Nick Drake.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IT NEEDS MORE COWBELL!
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That video has convinced me to take the leap and get my finger-pickin' on.

For some reason it really reminded me of a real mellow James Iha piece.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have sound here at work. Still the video doesn't suffer due to it.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Crackity Jonze wrote:
IT NEEDS MORE COWBELL!




THANK YOU!
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gettin' good! It sounds a little Nick Drake.


Fuck yeah! Nick Drake is good shit.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really though, you were right the first time: it sounds more like Mitsuda than anything.

I enjoy it. It is enjoyable. It wouldn't work as a standalone piece for more than 1:30 to 2 minutes, a "filler track" as they (and you) say, yet it'd be wonderful BGM for a videogame. As you describe! Basically I'm just saying everything you said already!

I do not approve of the haircut however!
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh! And I wanted to comment on the fuzz. The fuzz was the best part - the way it kind of swooshed in, like an incoming tide. It was distant, fuzzy fuzz, burbling water. Highly approve.

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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crackity Jonze wrote:
WTP wrote:
Crackity Jonze wrote:
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THANK YOU!


YOUR WELCOME!
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really enjoyed the piece. I love that quiet, ringing type of music. I listened to it while illustrating; it was a good fit for what I was working on.

Post more of these!
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lestrade wrote:
I really enjoyed the piece. I love that quiet, ringing type of music. I listened to it while illustrating; it was a good fit for what I was working on.

Post more of these!


That's the plan! I'm going to produce this piece up a bit with my precious Macbook Pro.
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PostPosted: Wednesday, December 13th 2006 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highway* wrote:
I think the correct term for this is 'nice'. What I imagine is the kind of like music that other people might put on in order to relax. If you asked me what I think it needs I would most likely reply with 'a solid block of distortion' and "Motörhead" yet that would be turning it to what my ideal view of rock and roll should be and not necessarily what yours would be. And then it wouldn't be what other people would consider relaxational music.

So I'll just leave it at nice.


Actually, there will be some distortion!

As I wrote elsewhere:

me elsewhere wrote:
Based on a recent semi-public improvized performance I have received a rather frightening motivation to record a demo of stuff like this. So I guess I'll roll with it.

Basically, the plan is, record this once perfectly (am willing to go for several takes (this was the first take, yeah)), and then loop it in garage band -- set it up so it loops four times. From the second loop, I'll add a second layer of very slightly fuzzy guitar right behind the first layer (will record again, as perfectly as possible, for something of a "soft bulletin" effect (garageband would allow me to make the clean loop fuzzy if i wanted, though i feel like recording a second loop; maybe i'll feel like a "musician" if i do so, i don't know), and some low-fi "watery"-sounding brushes-on-snare-drums drum-rolling. The third loop will introduce five more layers to the guitar (all recorded fresh), and a second guitar part (which will just be one power chord, that being "A") coming in at prudent points. The fourth and final loop will feature that second guitar sliding all the way up into the star chord, and jangling like madness for about fifteen solid seconds. The song will then abruptly end at a precisely perfect time for it to loop over again from the beginning (the clean guitar with no accompaniment). That, as they say, will be a "track".

MULTIPLE JAGABYTES OF RAM on my Macbook Pro will make this nice and simple to complete (minus the drums -- will record in the studio later) in around an hour. Once I have that accursed preamp. I think I shall record the guitar with a microphone positioned in front of my gorgeous little amp, for maximum low-fi effect.

Man! I just spent $2500 on a computer -- and for just $200 more, I can turn my ultra-clean minimalist high-tech living room into a music studio my stubbled bum counterpart of two years ago would have stomped a hobo for!

And I couldn't even play any musical instruments back then! And now I can play piano and bass and drums and some guitar.

Let's go for it!


So . . . hmmm.
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PostPosted: Thursday, December 14th 2006 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds exciting; I look forward to hearing the final result. It will probably be something I'd enjoy drawing to.

As the younger brother to a guitar-playing older brother, and as a man surrounded by musicians, I find all this fascinating.
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PostPosted: Thursday, December 14th 2006 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

108 elsewhere wrote:
Basically, the plan is, record this once perfectly (am willing to go for several takes (this was the first take, yeah)), and then loop it in garage band -- set it up so it loops four times. From the second loop, I'll add a second layer of very slightly fuzzy guitar right behind the first layer (will record again, as perfectly as possible, for something of a "soft bulletin" effect (garageband would allow me to make the clean loop fuzzy if i wanted, though i feel like recording a second loop; maybe i'll feel like a "musician" if i do so, i don't know),

It won't just make you feel like a real musician; it'll sound better. It won't be perfectly-exactly on top of the clean line, and it'll give the song more dimension. Garageband can probably reproduce that effect, too, yet not as naturally as you can.

108 elsewhere wrote:
and some low-fi "watery"-sounding brushes-on-snare-drums drum-rolling.

You can do better than that! Aka a real drummer can do better than that. Call me honey!

108 elsewhere wrote:
The third loop will introduce five more layers to the guitar (all recorded fresh), and a second guitar part (which will just be one power chord, that being "A") coming in at prudent points.

Five fresh tracks (!)? That will probably just muddle the sound, although there's no reason not to do it, play around with it, and see what it sounds like. If you want that much guitar sound, you're probably better off software-replicating a couple of the tracks, at least.

108 elsewhere wrote:
The fourth and final loop will feature that second guitar sliding all the way up into the star chord, and jangling like madness for about fifteen solid seconds.

It's all a cool idea, yet I say - fuck that shit - you need an old-school Mitsuda bassline. Lots of mids and trebles, lots of mellow slides, lots of playing up high. Chords built out of harmonics. That's the way to play it.

By the way, I finally realized what the hell this song reminded me of so strongly: http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01428/

108 elsewhere wrote:
The song will then abruptly end at a precisely perfect time for it to loop over again from the beginning (the clean guitar with no accompaniment). That, as they say, will be a "track".

Buh? What for? Are you making a soundtrack or something? If not - I hate songs that don't have real endings. Don't pussy out of it!
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PostPosted: Sunday, January 20th 2008 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: Travelers Reply with quote

nice track yet you really need to get a real drummer for this!!!!

i'd like to hear it again after you work on it more and add distortion...

i liked the idea of adding a cowbell too ;)

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I think the correct term is "nice." I thought was kind of like music, others may be relaxed. If you ask me what I think I will need it, "the distortion of the solid block" and "Motörhead" However, this ideal will open my rock, you should not necessarily be the most likely answer. Then, it will not be considering relaxation music.
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